[17:50:16] Jeff G: They are going to love me for committing collected arches: daimonin.0 is 11MB :|
[17:50:25] Longir: lol
[17:51:11] Jeff G: still, if you want to see your pretty lake/oasis on the test server ...
[17:51:27] Longir: exactly
[17:53:08] Smacky: *grumble* ive never understood why we have to have the arches as individual files and the collected arches on svn
[17:54:24] Jeff G: I suppose it's not really necessary.
[17:55:29] Smacky: im going to ask on the devteam forum
[17:55:37] Longir: we could just have daimonin.0, archetypes, animations, artifacts, bmaps.  that's fine, that's all the server cares about (daimonin.0 is the other 4 combined)
[17:56:16] Smacky: i would say have the uncollected arches on svn
[17:56:19] Longir: the only reason(s) for seperate arch files is for use in the editor
[17:56:44] Jeff G: I think what Smacky means is that they don't have to be on SVN and can be collected by individuals and for the test server locally
[17:57:04] Smacky: and for access by humans (and artists ;))
[17:57:06] Longir: test server needs a collected arch file though
[17:57:09] Jeff G: Then nobody has to download huge files
[17:57:16] Smacky: yes grommit
[17:58:12] … longir, the test server could collect them itself during the restart process. only takes a couple of seconds
[17:58:13] Jeff G: Hey - I am officially an artist now - I can use Gimp to chop bits out of water tiles and make fmasks!
[17:58:28] Longir: it doesn't need the seperate arch files
[17:58:54] Jeff G: The test server can't collect them though, it needs to be done by the editor
[17:58:57] Longir: exactly
[17:59:15] Smacky: so how do you make the collected files if not from the separate files?
[17:59:24] Longir: the server uses the archetypes and animations files
[17:59:35] Jeff G: So it's a manual process. With the present setup, the server always gets the latest collected arches
[17:59:45] Longir: you make it from the seperate files in the editor or edit archetypes and animations files
[18:00:15] Jeff G: Open editor - go to Resources and click on Collect archetypes
[18:00:20] Smacky: so create a standalone collecting program that the server can run without needing gridarta to hold its hand
[18:00:40] Jeff G: How's your Java, Smacky?
[18:00:47] Smacky: or just extract the code from gridarta
[18:01:15] … hehe well the code obviously exists is my point
[18:01:36] Longir: that's fine, rewrite the /restart (or dmon_loop.sh) to collect arches, artifacts, animations, bmaps then ./daimonin_server
[18:01:41] Smacky: its just not accessible except as part of gridarta
[18:01:56] … or that
[18:04:04] Longir: all I know of the collection though is it gets all the info from the archs and splits it into archetypes and animations and points to the proper number bmaps entries then those 3 plus artifacts gets packaged into daimonin.0 which gets sent to the client as daimonin.p0

cp arch/* server/lib/